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--goethean , (UTC) Since when are poems encyclopedic material? However I find it unfortunate that some unscrupulous or self-deceived gurus have found more gullible and profitable pastures in Western countries.

Andries , (UTC) Goethean and others, another thing.

Within these guidelines, common sense is still needed.

An editor writing in bad faith will always be able to find loopholes in the guidelines to advocate for his POV.

I do not think that any of the scholars and scientists mentioned in the main text of this article are obscure on the subject of gurus, Hinduism, or NRMs.

What scholars and scientists (apart from Klaus Klostermaier) do you suggest as a basis for this article?

As it was in the Beginning, is now, and ever shall be.Plus any scholar—often called Indologists or Sinologists—who specializes in any of these traditions.Unsympathetic Western scholars who specialize in or profit from skepically "debunking" gurus or "unmasking" "cults" are definitely less relevant to this article.Also restored the Biblio section and the external links, for same rason.--Zappaz , (UTC) If you restored the poems by Kabir, Brahmanand, and Hari Bhakti Vilasa that I consider the least encyclopedic part of the article then we might as well restore the rest.

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